Posts by The Dragon

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Is it easier to prove that a religion is "Right" or that it is "Wrong"?

by JH in

the jw's say that they have the "truth".. is it up to them to prove that they are right, or up to others to prove them wrong?.

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The Dragon

Truth is undisputable..guesses are not.

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Do you think that Jehovah and Jesus should take some of the blame?

by booker-t in

i truly love jehovah and jesus and no matter what i will always serve them, but sometimes i feel that jehovah and jesus are the blame for satan the devil getting totally out of control.

i just don't understand(and maybe never will) why jehovah and jesus have allowed satan and the demons to cause nothing but heartache for thousands and thousands of years.

people always talk about free will and that jehovah has a bigger plan ahead but why should people have to suffer misery in order to possibly gain happiness?

We don't even know for certain they are not the same being. Nobody really knows the plan..but you cannot call foul until the game is over..if you do...you can get egg on your face if you condemn a brilliant move or sacrifice that ends up winning the game.

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Amos 3:7 (Jehovah reveals to his prophets first) + 2007 Year's Text

by yaddayadda in

was speaking to a jw friend the other day (he knows i have 'doubts').

he asked me what i thought of the 2007 year's text.

i said it would be nice if jehovah did intervene soon, but that i felt that the society is wrong to be constantly telling everyone how 'near' the end of the system is, that they have been doing this for over 120 years, and that we should just focus on being good christians without always thinking the end is close all the time.

The Dragon

Why must the prophets get it first? Who are the prophets? what are they?

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The Great Day of Jehovah is NEAR!!!!!!

by Gill in

the year's text for 2007 is from zepheniah 1:14:.

'the great day of jehovah is near.

as usual 'near', 'soon', 'approaching'.....blah blah etc...... watchtower dec 15th 2006.

The Dragon

Is it a "great" day for us? Or God? or both?

How do you define "great"?

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Is convincing and controlling someone the same thing?

by The Dragon in

been mulling this over that past couple of days and need some different views on it.. .

convincing seems to imply rightly that a person still has to accept it and choose to listen..controlling seems to imply taking away the persons choice or discourage them from choosing what they want to do.. .

can we be controlled by convincing?.

The Dragon

But would we be happy if we were unable to have privicy and our secrets? What is the downside to people being able to keep secrets in the long term?

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Do you feel that "Christians and JW's" try to impose "guilt" on members

by booker-t in

i know this might sound like a very unusual questions but i was recently talking to a ex-jw's girl at my school and she made a very good point that i had never thought of.

she said that christians and jw's try to impose "guilt and fear" in their members by constantly comparing what the apostles and early christians suffered such as "beheadings, nail to crosses, burned alive, thrown to lions" and all sorts of horrible things.

she said they never just encourage you to serve god and jesus without their being a hidden doom and gloom message.

The Dragon

Must be nice to have others striving to live up to your standards and accept your defintions of their behavior without question as God's.

That's all i can say.

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You will know them by their_________?

by The Dragon in

"fruits"?

why didn't he just say results or actions?

why call a persons actions "fruits"?

The Dragon

why compare "fruit" to a persons accomplishments?

Why not just say a person's accomplishments?

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Is convincing and controlling someone the same thing?

by The Dragon in

been mulling this over that past couple of days and need some different views on it.. .

convincing seems to imply rightly that a person still has to accept it and choose to listen..controlling seems to imply taking away the persons choice or discourage them from choosing what they want to do.. .

can we be controlled by convincing?.

The Dragon

Been mulling this over that past couple of days and need some different views on it.

Convincing seems to imply rightly that a person still has to accept it and choose to listen..Controlling seems to imply taking away the persons choice or discourage them from choosing what they want to do.

can we be controlled by convincing?

Also "convincing" can also be misleading in the end result if the person supplying the convincing information intentions wants to accomplish that. Misleading convincing information is viewed as a "victory" of sorts if the person succeeds in doing that.

It really sucks sometimes we have the abilty to keep secrets from others like God. IMO

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"Keep on asking"

by Jeffro in

i was thinking about luke 11:5-9, and how it really is bad, bad advice.. instead of encouraging individuals to ask for something, and then have the faith that things will work out for the best - though not necessarily as they may want - the particularly poor advice of this passage not only condones a selfish attitude of pestering god/others until they get what they want, but when put into practice, it also encourages anxiety induced by expectations of unfulfilled hopes..

The Dragon

Does God like or respect persistance? or does it piss Him off? has He ever voiced His opinion on persistance as we know it?

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You will know them by their_________?

by The Dragon in

"fruits"?

why didn't he just say results or actions?

why call a persons actions "fruits"?

The Dragon

"fruits"?

why didn't He just say results or actions? Why call a persons actions "fruits"? What other words are disguised in there? What was the purpose in doing that? Who was he trying to leave in the dark by doing that?

Any guesses? Or undisputable answers?